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Transcript: Rep. Jamie Raskin on “Face the Nation,” Nov. 13, 2022

The following is the transcript of an interview with Democratic Rep. Jamie Raskin of Maryland that aired Sunday, Nov. 13, 2022, on “Face the Nation.”


MARGARET BRENNAN: I’m joined now in-studio by Maryland Democratic Congressman Jamie Raskin, who additionally serves in the House Select Committee investigating the January 6 assault on the US Capitol. Welcome. Democrats nonetheless have a shot right here. Although Republicans have the edge in taking the House. What do Americans should be ready for what the subsequent two years appears to be like like?

REP. JAMIE RASKIN: Well, to start with, do not depend us out. The approach we had been counted out from the very starting on this election, they had been saying the Republicans had been going to select up 40,50,60 seats, however the celebration of democracy and freedom and progress for the individuals held. And so we have had a really spectacular election. And we will proceed to combat for social progress. And we will combat for the political rights of the individuals, which suggests towards gerrymandering, towards voter suppression techniques, towards manipulative use of the filibuster and the Electoral College to thwart the will of the majority. So we’re gonna proceed to combat for a robust democracy program.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Yeah, it is gonna be exhausting to legislate although, any approach we take a look at it. I need to ask you about what you are working on with the January 6 committee. Former President Trump’s mainly going to defy the subpoena you issued. He’s planning to announce he is operating for the presidency on Tuesday. Is the prime achievement of the January sixth committee merely going to be this written report? You’re not showing to cease him from operating.

RASKIN: Well, in a democracy, the individuals have the proper to the reality. And what we withstood was a scientific assault on democratic establishments in an try to overthrow a presidential election. So we’ve got set forth the reality in a collection of hearings. And we will set forth the reality in our closing report, together with a set of legislative suggestions about what we have to do to fortify American democracy, towards coups, insurrections, electoral sabotage and political violence with home violent extremist teams concerned. So we will put all of that on the market.  Look, when– after I was over in the Senate with the impeachment crew, I informed the Republicans there that this was our alternative to take care of the downside of Donald Trump who had dedicated excessive crimes and misdemeanors towards the individuals of the United States. And they wanted to behave on behalf of the nation and the Constitution. But in the event that they did not, he would turn into their downside. And at this level, Donald Trump is the downside of the Republican Party and he might destroy their celebration.

MARGARET BRENNAN:  Can you get an Electoral Count Act handed on this lame duck session?

RASKIN: I feel we will. That’s the naked minimal of what we have to do. It’s mandatory. It’s not remotely adequate to the job as a result of what we noticed in– in 2021, and earlier in 2020, was a scientific assault on the proper to vote in an try to steal a presidential election by Donald Trump and try to overthrow the constitutional order. So, I feel we will reform the Electoral Count Act, passing the laws that Zoe Lofgren and Liz Cheney have proposed, however that is only one small a part of what must be done–needs to be finished to guard American constitutional democracy.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Election deniers did not prevail in the key battleground, however CBS tallied it and a minimum of 155 House Republicans in the new Congress have raised unfounded doubts about the validity or integrity of the 2020 election. These are going to be your colleagues that you’ll be working with. What change is that going to have an effect on in the working?

RASKIN: Well, that is a press release about the political contamination of the GOP by Donald Trump. And once more, you realize, Kevin McCarthy and different leaders inside the Republican Party are actually required to decide about whether or not they will attempt to rid themselves of Donald Trump and his poisonous affect on the celebration. 

MARGARET BRENNAN: But these 155 House Republicans are his constituency, Kevin McCarthy, if he needs to be chief, might want to think about as properly – 

RASKIN: Yes, it is an actual downside for Kevin McCarthy now, as a result of there are specific pro-Trumpists inside his House caucus, who refuse to just accept that he is actually with Trump and so they need to do away with McCarthy. And a few of them– they’ve names very early in the alphabet, like Biggs. And they could simply vote for Trump, after they you realize, take the roll name for speaker so we all know that the– the exhausting proper Freedom Caucus persons are in the hunt for one other candidate and one potential candidate whose title has been floated is Donald Trump himself, as a result of the Speaker of the House doesn’t need to be a member of the House. And they’re speaking about placing Trump proper there.

MARGARET BRENNAN: That’s not an actual possibility, although. 

RASKIN: Well, they speak about it repeatedly. And if Trump determined he needed to do it, it might pose a profound downside for his or her celebration as a result of they refuse to do the proper factor. Early on – I imply, right this moment, it looks as if the spell has been damaged. It’s begun to dissolve. We haven’t got Republicans round the nation claiming that they actually received when it has been licensed that they lost their elections. And but there may be nonetheless this “Big Lie” dogma, which, as you say, has been embraced by 150 members inside their caucus. And so that’s going to create profound cognitive and political dissonance inside the GOP. Is it actually Trump’s celebration? Or does it stand for one thing else? And Liz Cheney, and Adam Kinzinger are going to drive that question, they will drive the Republicans to decide on.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Would you urge President Biden in the White House to adjust to all these House Republican investigations which were promised?

RASKIN: Well, the– clearly everyone’s bought to adjust to the legislation, akin to the legislation is, you realize. We would hope that they might really feel chastened by the voters of America who dealt them in historic repudiation. I imply, they had been speaking about selecting up 40 or 50 or 60 seats. We, the Democrats, might certainly win the House the approach yesterday, we received the Senate. So it’s a repudiation of that form of proper wing, “Big Lie,” election-denying character assassination politics that Donald Trump introduced proper to the coronary heart of the Republican Party. 

MARGARET BRENNAN: Congressman, thanks for being right here and becoming a member of us right this moment. We’ll be proper again in a second.

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