Co-defendant and former manager Derrel McDavid to testify for second day

On his second day on the witness stand, former R. Kelly business manager Derrel McDavid continued to stress that he had no purpose to imagine claims that Kelly was sexually abusing his goddaughter “Jane,” when she was as younger as 14.

Recalling a meeting Kelly had with Jane and her mother and father in 2002, McDavid testified he had no purpose to imagine that meeting was a few tape of Kelly having intercourse with Jane when she was underage. He additionally stated that, after the meeting, Kelly went with him whereas he went to decide up his children from faculty, and he would not have allowed Kelly to come alongside if he knew about any questionable conduct by the singer.

Later, as Kelly was getting ready to carry out on the Winter Olympics in Salt Lake City in 2002, McDavid stated he was knowledgeable that Kelly’s former manager, Barry Hankerson, had known as Kelly’s lawyer, Gerry Margolis, claiming he had a tape of Kelly having intercourse with a minor. 

McDavid testified he believed Hankerson, who had been fired as Kelly’s manager, was out to damage Kelly, and since Jane and her household had repeatedly denied any abuse claims, he did not imagine Hankerson. 

The identical day as Hankerson’s name, Chicago Sun-Times reporter and music critic Jim DeRogatis known as Margolis, additionally saying he had a intercourse tape of Kelly. McDavid stated he believed none of that was coincidence, and that Hankerson was out to destroy Kelly.

McDavid testified he employed outstanding protection lawyer Ed Genson to symbolize Kelly after the singer turned the topic of a legal investigation, and Genson stated they wanted to interview Jane themselves. McDavid stated he waited in Genson’s office till Jane arrived, when Genson advised him to “get out.”

After Jane talked to Genson, McDavid stated Jane and Kelly left the office, and Genson advised him he believed Jane’s denials that Kelly sexually abused her. McDavid testified Genson advised him, “The tape is a fake. And I’m gonna prove it.” According to McDavid, Genson slammed his fists on his desk, and was very animated and prepared to struggle.

McDavid later turned to a meeting with Jane’s household, who he stated advised Kelly’s group they had been fearful about publicity from the tape, and needed to get out of city. McDavid testified he known as Genson, and he advised them it was high quality, for the reason that household hadn’t been subpoenaed concerning the tape, so he paid for two journeys out of city. Each journey lasted a few week or two, in accordance to McDavid, who stated that Kelly might have afforded to ship the household away for longer, however Kelly by no means prompt that.

McDavid stated, at that time, he nonetheless had no information that Jane may be on any tape having intercourse with Kelly.

Jane and her mom have testified earlier that Kelly paid for them to go to Mexico and the Bahamas in order that they could not speak to prosecutors or the media.

McDavid testified, after the Sun-Times revealed an article in February 2002 concerning the tape allegedly exhibiting Kelly having intercourse with an underage woman, plenty of different allegations towards Kelly got here out, and Kelly later was charged with little one pornography. McDavid stated after Kelly was charged, Genson advised him all the civil claims towards Kelly would have to be settled, and Kelly could not make any public statements.

According to McDavid, by then Kelly did not look like himself, and appeared “broken,” in order that they employed a psychiatrist for him. McDavid stated he attended a few of Kelly’s periods with the psychiatrist, who requested Kelly concerning the ape with Jane, and Kelly once more stated “there was no sex tape of him and a minor.” 

McDavid testified that additional strengthened his perception that Kelly was telling the reality that there was no tape of him having intercourse with a minor, as a result of “why would you waste your time [with a psychiatrist] if you’re not going to tell them the truth?”

McDavid stated his religion in Kelly was later strengthened when Genson advised him Jane had testified earlier than a Cook County grand jury, and continued to deny being abused by Kelly. 

Kelly was arrested at his Florida house in 2002. McDavid stated that occurred regardless of prosecutors beforehand telling Genson that Kelly would give you the option to flip himself in on his personal in Chicago. McDavid testified Genson “lost his mind,” accusing prosecutors of mendacity to him, and making an attempt to damage Kelly’s popularity and strive the case within the media.

McDavid testified he later advised Genson that Charles Freeman had approached them, claiming to have an incriminating intercourse tape, and that Genson needed to get each tape that may very well be discovered to have them analyzed by consultants, and proved to be fakes. McDavid stated Genson additionally needed them as a result of “any tapes that got out could taint the jury pool, would be out in the media, could affect the trial.”

McDavid stated he did not watch any of the tapes Genson was in a position to get, and that solely Genson and his assistant would watch them. Asked if Genson ever advised him any tapes concerned somebody who appeared to be a minor, McDavid stated that by no means occurred.

McDavid testified that, shortly after Kelly was indicted in 2002, Chuck Freeman sued Kelly, and the case was settled for $65,000, not the $140,000 that Freeman was supposed to get for his tape, after Freeman failed a lie detector check and gave them a nasty copy of the tape. McDavid additionally disputed Freeman’s testimony earlier within the trial that Kelly’s group agreed to pay him up to $1 million to get again the tape, saying they solely ever promised $140,000.

McDavid stated he believed Freeman was merely making an attempt to extort Kelly when he was “vulnerable” and coulnd’t do something. He testified he advised Genson and Margolis they should not give Freeman any money, as a result of “this guy is a bad disease that’s just going to keep coming back,” however McDavid says he listened to them as a result of they had been the consultants.

Despite the legal fees towards Kelly, McDavid testified he continued to imagine in Kelly, as a result of the case did not have an effect on his career, and different star musicians like Jay-Z and Wyclef Jean continued to e-book exhibits with Kelly. 

McDavid testified he continued to imagine Jane’s denials that Kelly sexually abused her, as a result of she and her household did not ask for a payoff, although they might have requested for thousands and thousands if the allegations had been true. He stated that made him suppose they had been truthful, trustworthy individuals.

However, McDavid has additionally beforehand testified that accusers who did demand money from Kelly after accusing him of sexual abuse had been simply out to extort him.

Turning to Kelly telling him in 2007 a few intercourse tape his then-girlfriend Lisa Van Allen stole from him, McDavid stated Kelly by no means tried to deny the tape existed, telling him it confirmed him and Van Allen having a threesome together with his spouse. McDavid testified Kelly was involved about how his youngsters would really feel figuring out his spouse was concerned in a tape, saying it might damage their marriage.

Van Allen has testified the tape she took confirmed her having a threesome with Kelly and his 14-year-old goddaughter, Jane.

McDavid testified Kelly advised him Van Allen simply needed money, and that when he advised Genson concerning the tape, Genson was involved about Van Allen’s age, and Kelly’s group confirmed she met Kelly when she was 18 years previous.

McDavid testified he later discovered Van Allen’s buddy, Keith Murrell, truly had the tape, and the one description he knew of was that it confirmed a “regular threesome,” not anything. McDavid claimed each Van Allen and Murrell needed $200,000 for the tape, and Genson advised him to pay it.

Turning to a meeting at a Westin lodge the place McDavid was supposed to pay them for the tape, McDavid testified he despatched Kelly’s assistant, Milton “June” Brown, additionally a co-defendant on this trial, to get money from the financial institution whereas he wen to the lodge, the place Murrell and Van Allen additionally would bear polygraph assessments.

McDavid testified Genson advised him Murrell failed the check, and had introduced a disc copy of the video, reasonably than the tape itself, so Genson advised him to give them $20,000 every. McDavid stated that is when Van Allen “threw a fit,” screaming and crying and saying this is not honest.

McDavid stated they advised Van Allen and Murrell to return to get the unique tape, and after they did, they acquired one other $80,000 every. McDavid testified Genson reviewed the tape first, and advised him it confirmed Kelly, Van Allen, and Kelly’s spouse having a threesome.

McDavid testified he did not imagine there was something improper about shopping for again the tapes, as a result of “was Robert and his wife and Lisa van Allen. These were all grown people.” 

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